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  • thomachan72
    07-05 03:25 PM
    Since the sentiment is so string against freeloaders - aren't all the people not donating to AILF freeloaders too ? Let's donate to AILF too while we are at it...
    cal_dood, couldn't make out clearly what you said. However, the main point I guess is to contribute to AILF, right? I would say yes, but not directly. The best option would be to contribute to the IV and let them know that you want the money to go to the AILF. I am sure that is what IV is planning to. It doesn't make sense to fight 2 wars against the same enemy. But said that the AILF has made requests for contributions but not very seriously. The main thing they want is to join the case and even that (the numbers required) I believe is already accomplished. So sit back and enjoy the summer, while spreading the message of this injustice.





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  • waitnwatch
    07-13 11:30 AM
    Reading through this thread I find this intense debate about the value and intentions of Murthy's letter.

    Let's first deal with the value part: This letter could be from any one of us or anybody else from Timbuktu. Why does this letter have any special significance except that the DHS secretary may read it because Murthy and the secretary are alumni of the same institution (see how carefully this part is added to the letter for our consumption). Now this feeds into the intention part. Even if Murthy wrote a letter to the DHS Secretary why did she have to publicize it on her website (except for the gullible among us to take notice). Generally publicized letters have value if they are from some influential policy maker or lawmaker. In this case Murthy is neither and so her letter does not add or subtract any value to this debate. So we are left with the question of who gains by publicizing this letter. Your guess is as good as mine.

    Ultimately I am left wondering why this thread was started in the first place except to garner cheap publicity. Do we really have so much time on our hands?





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  • indyanguy
    02-20 03:47 PM
    looks like there no hope for EB3 India to move further :(

    Ya, no hope for EB3-India :(





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  • tushar123
    02-13 05:26 PM
    Its funny to see that people call this ethinic cleansing.... it is the right of America to punish people who disobey the law. reservation now in india is a better example which deprives people from certain community to persue higher education or employment in govt jobs.



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  • ronhira
    04-11 06:05 PM
    Good point. I appreciate your hard work.

    This may be helpful
    245(i), Adjustment of Status Permanent Residence, Life Act | V Visa, K Visa (http://www.callyourlawyers.com/245%28i%29revival.html)

    GRANDFATHERED DERIVATIVE FAMILY MEMBERS

    Grandfathered children and spouses: Accepting Applications for Adjustment of Status Under Section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 06/10/1999 INS memo

    Section 245(i) defines the term "beneficiary" to include a spouse or
    child "eligible to receive a visa under section 203(d) of the Act." This
    applies to spouses or children "accompanying or following to join" the
    principal alien.

    An alien who is accompanying or following to join an alien who is a
    grandfathered alien is thus also the "beneficiary" of the grandfathered
    petition or labor certification application and is also grandfathered.

    Since an alien's ability to characterize himself or herself as
    "accompanying or following to join" the principal alien depends on the
    existence of a qualifying relationship at the time of the principal's
    adjustment, adjudicators must determine whether the relationship existed
    prior to the time the alien adjusted status. Officers should remember
    that the burden of proof to establish the qualifying relationship rests
    with the applicant.

    The spouse or child of a grandfathered alien as of January 14 is also
    grandfathered for 245(i) purposes. This means that the spouse or child
    is grandfathered irrespective of whether the spouse or child adjusts
    with the principal. The pre-January 15 spouse or child also are
    grandfathered even after losing the status of spouse or child, such as
    by divorce or by becoming 21 years of age, by the petitioner�s
    naturalization, through the parents� divorce, or even if the principal
    or petitioner dies. Grandfathered eligibility attaches to the person and
    not the petition. Many aliens with pending, grandfathered petitions or
    labor certification applications will marry or have children after the
    qualifying petition or application was filed but before adjustment of
    status. These "after-acquired" children and spouses are allowed to
    adjust under 245(i) as long as they acquire the status of a spouse or
    child before the principal alien ultimately adjusts status.

    An alien who becomes the child or spouse of a grandfathered alien
    after the alien adjusts status or immigrates cannot adjust status under
    section 245(i) unless he or she has an independent basis for
    grandfathering.

    "Aged-out" children

    Often, a principal alien who has filed a visa petition or labor
    certification application will have a "child" who reaches the age of 21,
    and thus no longer meet the statutory definition of child, before the
    petition or application is approved or the principal alien adjusts
    status. However, such an "aged-out" beneficiary will remain a
    beneficiary for the purpose of determining whether he or she may use
    section 245(i) to adjust status.

    Eligibility: An alien who is included in the categories of
    restricted aliens under 245.1(b) and meets the definition of a
    ``grandfathered alien'' may apply for adjustment of status under section
    245 of the Act if the alien meets the requirements of paragraphs (b)(1)
    through (b)(7) of this section:

    (1) Is physically present in the United States;
    (2) Is eligible for immigrant classification and has an immigrant visa
    number immediately available at the time of filing for adjustment of
    status;
    (3) Is not inadmissible from the United States under any provision of
    section 212 of the Act, or all grounds for inadmissibility have been
    waived;
    (4) Properly files Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent
    Residence or Adjust Status on or after October 1, 1994, with the
    required fee for that application;
    (5) Properly files Supplement A to Form I-485 on or after October 1,
    1994;
    (6) Pays an additional sum of $1,000, unless payment of the additional
    sum is not required under section 245(i) of the Act; and
    (7) Will adjust status under section 245 of the Act to that of lawful
    permanent resident of the United States on or after October 1, 1994.

    hypocrisy as its best...... need another quote from gandhi....

    u'r saying its crime for others to file application of their spouse & children...... aren't u waiting for the aos approval for u'r child...... but if other files for their family member..... according to u its a crime....





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  • chanduv23
    09-28 09:59 AM
    The topic is to discuss the pros and cons. Thanks for all your excellent perspectives. Lets keep this discussion going.

    It is very obvious that America is still the best place in the world.

    300k green card petitions in July itself says how much people want to be here.

    But when it comes to supporting our cause, many people just back out.

    I do not want to deviate from the topic, but it will be great if people put their prespectives. So lets keep the discussion going



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  • praveen123
    08-29 04:06 PM
    [quote=sweet_jungle]

    What's wrong in getting trained as a fresher, and what's wrong in a consulting company trying to increase there business.

    How is it different from companies like TCS, Wipro, Satyam, Polaris etc that do a lot of campus recruiting, provide intensive training and place the candidates on projects and eventually coming here.

    To let you know, there are more then 200K masters students coming every year to USA to pursue advanced degrees.

    -the116
    There is nothing wrong if you get trained as a fresher and get into consulting but i don't think its not the same way TCS, WIPRO, Satyam and Infosys etc..is doing. Those companies take you as fresher and they train u very well and you get the freedom of learning. Its like team learning.You need not to worry to say that you are a fresher. They also pay very less salary charging less billing with clients compared to the open market. But being a fresher in USA , getting trained , getting into a project , all these are individual hardwork and ofcourse more money.Once you are on client side you may not have much support as Satyam, TCS, WIPRO guys has. you can not say that u r a fresher and client expectation would be more since they pay high billing .





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  • unitednations
    12-21 10:48 PM
    This is from Murthy chat.

    Question: If in the past I have been out of H1B status for 6 months (I-94 not expired), is this going to hurt my GC (or any new petitions to change / extend / adjust status)?

    Answer: A person who fails to maintain status for over 180 days may have a problem obtaining the approval of the I-485, which allows a maximum of 180 days for one to be out of status under Section 245(k) of the INA, unless the person is covered under 245(i) of the INA. Sometimes, though, the fault of the employer in not paying the salary while the person is considered an employee may not pose a problem but at other times it may pose a problem. Not having pay stubs will certainly adversely impact the ability to obtain an extension or change of status from the USCIS. Jun-20-2005.

    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:



    I had written about this in the past. When I went for local office interview; he had requested all w2's and tax returns from my initial entry shown on g-325( LAST ADDRESS OUTSIDE USA FOR MORE THEN ONE YEAR) which was 1999.

    It said prove that you maintained status on each entry.


    Now: i didn't have any issues but I was pretty upset that officer was going way outside the law and testing periods that he wasn't supposed to. My date of last entry before filing 485 was December 2002 and he was requesting 1999-2006.

    I did inform him that he wasn't supposed to ask for this as it was outside the law. However; what I gathered is that although 245k does have some significant protection for everyone; uscis tries to go other ways in catching/snagging you. Another link was provided in this link where a person listed an employer on his g-325a but he was on bench and never got paid. USCIS was trying to deny his 485 due to fraud. Fraud overrules 24k any time.

    Therefore; uscis uses many different avenues to get at other aspects; especially to get you to lie, cover up, mislead in things you don't need to but inadvertently do because you think it is problematic when it really wasn't.

    The feeling i got from my interview is that is what he was exactly trying to do.



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  • delax
    07-14 08:01 PM
    Yes. I VOLUNTARILY exclude myself from any such potential benefit. :)
    I am surprised by the defence of this lawfirm in most of your posts on this forum.


    And I am surprised by you using a contribution to Immigrationvoice as the only yradstick for working towards immigrant "rights"

    By that yardstick neither of us can proclaim ourselves as being working towards immigrant "rights".

    Note the quotes - a privilege cannot be a right. DUE PROCESS is your right towards attaing that privilege - we need to focus on that - not on what Murthy does or does not do or even more importantly what you expect her to do or not to do.





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  • abc
    12-13 03:36 PM
    I am planning to forget GC and move on with new company.

    For new company to file EB2 based on BS + 6 years experience. What kind of experience letter we will need from old company.

    AS you know desi companies dont give experience letters, how do people manage to show old experiences and file for EB2 in new company ?



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  • xyz2005
    07-18 10:37 AM
    Its getting dicey here

    My attorney says so far I have not received your rejection but not to say USCIS might have mailed one and we have not received it. If we get it then we will resubmit..if not then you will get receipt notice.

    He did not address whether we will be able to retain our July 2nd queue number or not.

    We all should be worried now.! Don't know what to say or recommend.





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  • cal_dood
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    I'll just go back to forums of the leading lady immigration lawyer....



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  • sanju
    11-12 08:38 PM
    The above post is senseless !! who cares who votes for whom and who does what ?? what democrats do and what republicans do is not in our hands - nor do we decide who comes in power. our aim should be to try and come up with a plan and act on it. whether it succeeds or not is not in our hands ...doing something is better than nothing. so if u have a better plan come up with it and we will support and act on it.

    "Who cares who votes for whom and who does what?"

    My Dear Friend AlbertPinto,

    Things don't move in vacuum. How people vote has everything to do with how lawmakers vote and how lawmakers vote has everything to do with what bills pass. You just want the bill so that you can get green card, end of story. And anything other than that is "who cares".

    Look, without making and attempt to understand how things work in DC/Congress, sending flowers and cards to Obama, don't expect things to change. Tunnel vision is very dangerous, just like half knowledge.

    Although we do not control who comes into power, if we wish to have our issues addressed, we have the responsibility to understand why/how someone or some party won the elections. Please stop behaving like and IT project manager where someone will come up with a silver bullet solution/plan and then implementation of that one silver bullet will fix everything. Getting bills passed in congress is not an IT project. I think the plan has been laid by the core team. I understand that core team has repeatedly told us to get more actively involved, raise money to help with advocacy and create awareness of the issue. Posting few messages on the web forum is not the measure of how involved someone is. But it appears most people on this forum do not want to do what the core seems to be telling us. We just want to come up with an way way out, a silver bullet solution, well defined project plan, and at the end of time and money, we must see the desired result. Maybe that's why some of the folks keep asking for the "plan". And discussion about who won the election and how people/lawmakers vote is seen as out of place and unnecessary.



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  • rangaGCPlease
    07-18 11:52 PM
    Hi, I see that several June 1st filers who mailed on 31st may have received RD's. So same logic should apply for July 2nd filers who mailed on 30th june. I dont see any difference between the two scenarios. Any rejected july 2nd applns should have already reached, unless they are lost in return mail :(. Otherwise the scenario is exactly identical to June 1st filers.



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  • permfiling
    02-14 01:41 AM
    Canuck,
    There is no divide and rule policy by US as giving H1 does not mean that you have to file for Immigration, It is the choice of the person to get immigrated to US and US has set some policies by quota system. If you don't like it then no one is forcing you to stay back (US will say that if u sue USCIS).

    Thought to chip in my 2 cents as you are showing similarities of british raj and US. First of all it was the fault of the kings in India during that time who were not united enough to kick them out.

    Cheers
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    EB2 -INDIA
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    Dear friends,

    I am appalled and disgusted by the mudslinging going on between ROW and India-born applicants. If any of you remember your history lessons from high school, the English used this exact policy of "Divide and Rule" to keep control over their colonies.

    For example, in India, they would go into Moslem dominated cities, discriminate against them for jobs, and put Hindus in more prestigious positions, and vice-versa. They did this after the first war for independence in 1857 where Hindus, Moslems, rich and poor fought to overthrow the British occupation.

    The very same policy is used by the U.S. government to control their population:

    1) Per country quotas in EB immigration cause infighting

    2) Infighting causes immigrant activists like IV to lose focus and weaken the agenda

    3) Infighting results in racism between ROW, India, and China, which causes Americans to watch the circus, shake their heads and lobby for more immigration control

    4) Poor regulation in the H1B program cause Americans to lose their jobs and blame the Indians and Chinese

    ...and the elite sit back, sip their martinis, and watch the fun.

    So you have two choices before you:
    1) Keep fighting, achieve none of the 3 main IV objectives, and continue your bonded slavery or
    2) Unite as one to achieve all 3 objectives, and throw off your shackles

    Remember, "Injustice Anywhere is a Threat to Justice Everywhere" - Martin Luther King





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  • ksvreg
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    best bet is eb3 to eb2 conversion in addition to advocacy efforts?



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  • gc_lover
    07-24 01:46 PM
    Can anyone confirm if the files are actually being transferred from Nebraska to Texas? Why is the compliance date for Texas 10/26 and for Nebraska it's 8/1.

    Why would files be transferred from NSC to TSC. Didn't USCIS issue instructions to file everything at NSC. Life is getting more complicated each day.





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  • coopheal
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    Thanks

    You can get much more data regarding PD of various categories at .
    http://www..com/usa-immigration-trackers/i485-tracker1/

    If you are filtering on the basis of application status = pending you will get much more uptodate applications than the static one as per this poll.

    Interesting thing (not in a good way) to note is most EB3 India (even whose priority dates are as back as 2003-2002) have filed in June/July.





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  • Madhuri
    03-17 11:28 AM
    EB3-India
    PD: March 2006
    EAD-AP approved, FP done





    immi_enthu
    08-15 04:35 PM
    yes but they will start processing the applications based on the receipt dates. so if a guy applied last year, he gets priority over last month's people. (that is assuming that his priority dates were current last year from him to apply!)

    also they will need to do fingerprinting etc. and shall pass the FBI check before they get to final stage of adjudication. that would take 6 more months. so they should look at the bulletin at that time to see if they are eligible. dont get excited about these dates - they are not that helpful for the last month filers.

    some people who applied in June may get approved if their PDs are current. July/ Aug filers unlikely





    baleraosreedhar
    09-10 03:14 PM
    For the past 2 months there has been many quarrels between EB2 and EB3.EB2 folks were really happy as the dates were current and suddenly they saw the Oct visa news from m umbai consulate and see so many posts regarding the apathy of USICS.

    My dear friends USCIS was like that only since ages and because of it Labour Backlogs were created

    To resolve these issues they started BP Centers

    Then again came New labour system-- but still old habits die hard and see what happened to the new labour system

    now DOL is playing with us with their new cutoff dates.

    So Please forget about EB2 and EB3 lets all unite and fight for final push for EB reforms to get GC.



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